Hala Nelson joins the show to chat writing books, teaching math, and much more. It's not often we get three math nerds, professors, and authors in the same conversation, and this is a lot of fun. Enjoy!

What does it mean to build at the beginning of something the world doesn’t even understand yet? In Episode 51 of Ground Zero Growth, we sit down with James Gorman, a true Internet Pioneer whose career spans from the earliest days of TCP/IP and dial-up connectivity to modern cybersecurity and resilience strategy. From helping businesses get online before browsers were mainstream to navigating the dot-com crash, large-scale infrastructure builds, and today’s AI revolution. He has seen it all from the front lines. If you’ve ever wondered how yesterday’s internet shaped today’s security landscape, and what that means for the future of AI and business, this conversation is for you.